How to Get Skibidi Toilet in Steal a Brainrot (January 2025) Ultimate Guide

Updated by Marcus Reed
December 22, 2025
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Skibidi Toilet is shaking up Steal a Brainrot as the next highly anticipated OG rarity Brainrot coming to the game. After months of cryptic toilet emoji hints from developer SpyderSammy and intense community speculation, this viral internet phenomenon is officially confirmed for release. If you’re wondering how to get your hands on this ultra-rare character that’s about to become the third OG in the entire game, I’ve got you covered with everything you need to know.

I’ve compiled information from multiple sources including the official Steal a Brainrot Wiki, community Discord servers, developer announcements, and verified player reports to bring you the most comprehensive guide on obtaining Skibidi Toilet. This character isn’t just another collectible—it represents a major addition to the game’s rarity hierarchy and will instantly become one of the most sought-after Brainrots when it drops.

What is Skibidi Toilet in Steal a Brainrot?

Attribute	Details
Rarity	OG (Third OG in game)
Status	Coming Soon (Expected January 2025)
Creator	DaFuq!?Boom! (Alexey Gerasimov)
Spawn Location	Red Carpet (Conveyor Belt)
Cost	TBA (Expected: Billions)
Income	TBA (Likely $330M/s based on leaks)
Obtainment Methods	Red Carpet Purchase, Stealing

Skibidi Toilet originates from the massively viral YouTube series created by animator DaFuq!?Boom! in early 2023. The series features an absurdist war between toilets with human heads emerging from the bowls and humanoid characters with electronic devices for heads. While it may seem bizarre, the series exploded across social media platforms, amassing billions of views and becoming a defining piece of internet culture.

In Steal a Brainrot, Skibidi Toilet will join Strawberry Elephant and Meowl as the third OG rarity Brainrot. This classification is reserved for iconic internet memes and characters that predate the current “brainrot” era—essentially, they’re the OGs (originals) of internet culture.

Appearance & Design

The Skibidi Toilet character in Steal a Brainrot stays faithful to its viral video origins:

Base Structure: A standard white ceramic toilet bowl
Head Features: A humanoid head extending from the toilet bowl with:
- Creepy, wide smile with prominent cheeks
- Large eyes with dark green pupils
- Thick, defined eyebrows
- Two visible ears
- Shorter hair compared to the original YouTube version
Overall Aesthetic: Unsettling yet comical appearance that captures the surreal nature of the meme

According to community findings, the in-game model closely resembles the original YouTube character while being optimized for Roblox’s visual style.

Confirmation Timeline: From Teases to Official Announcement

The journey to Skibidi Toilet’s arrival has been a rollercoaster of hints, false alarms, and finally, official confirmation:

September 20, 2025 – First teaser during Admin Abuse event. However, this turned out to be a red herring, ultimately leading to the release of Toiletto Focaccino instead.

November 4, 2025 – SpyderSammy dropped a massive hint during Admin Abuse with “🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽” followed by “new OG soon?” This reignited the community’s excitement.

December 6, 2025 – Official confirmation during the Santa’s Fuse Admin Abuse event. Sammy asked the community, “Guess who is the next OG?” and responded with another string of toilet emojis, definitively confirming Skibidi Toilet as the next OG Brainrot.

December 8, 2025 – SpyderSammy posted in the official Steal a Brainrot Discord server saying “@here hi” accompanied by a Skibidi Toilet GIF, signaling imminent release in an upcoming update.

December 15, 2025 – Community poll released at 2:20 PM EST regarding Skibidi Toilet’s rarity classification. Despite debates about whether a 2023 meme qualifies as “OG,” the community voted to maintain its OG status.

December 18-22, 2025 – Multiple sources reported the character will arrive “soon,” potentially in the Gingerbread Town update or early January 2025.

Why Skibidi Toilet’s OG Rarity is Controversial?

Skibidi Toilet’s designation as an OG rarity Brainrot sparked significant debate within the Steal a Brainrot community. Here’s why:

The OG Classification Criteria

In Steal a Brainrot, OG rarity is specifically reserved for old internet memes and characters that existed before the current “brainrot” culture era (roughly pre-2020). The rarity signifies:

Historical significance in internet culture
Creation without AI assistance
Widespread recognition outside the game
Nostalgic value for veteran internet users

The Age Comparison

Strawberry Elephant – Created around 2007 (approximately 18 years ago as of 2025) Meowl – Created in 2013 (approximately 12 years ago as of 2025) Skibidi Toilet – Created in 2023 (only 2 years ago as of 2025)

The massive age gap raised questions: Is 2 years old enough to be considered “OG”? Developer SpyderSammy addressed this by acknowledging Skibidi Toilet is “not a crazy OG” compared to Strawberry Elephant and Meowl, which explains why it’s expected to have lower stats than the other two OG Brainrots despite sharing the same rarity tier.

Expected Performance Impact

Because Skibidi Toilet doesn’t meet the traditional age criteria for OG status, it will likely be:

The “worst” (lowest-performing) OG Brainrot in terms of income generation
Less expensive than Strawberry Elephant and Meowl
Still incredibly rare and valuable compared to all other non-OG rarities

This creates an interesting dynamic where Skibidi Toilet occupies a unique middle ground—ultra-rare and prestigious due to its OG classification, but more accessible than the other OG Brainrots.

How to Get Skibidi Toilet: Complete Methods

When Skibidi Toilet officially launches in Steal a Brainrot, there will be two primary methods to obtain this coveted OG Brainrot. Here’s your complete guide to each approach.

Method 1: Red Carpet (Conveyor Belt) Spawning

The Red Carpet—also called the conveyor belt—is the central spawn point where Brainrots appear for purchase. This is the primary and most legitimate method for obtaining Skibidi Toilet at its base price.

How OG Spawning Works

OG rarity Brainrots like Skibidi Toilet spawn naturally on the Red Carpet, but with astronomically low spawn rates. Based on data from existing OG Brainrots:

Base Spawn Rate: Approximately 0.001% – 0.01% chance per spawn cycle
Average Spawn Frequency: Once every several hours on standard servers
Luck-Boosted Servers: Can increase spawn frequency to roughly once per hour

Step-by-Step Strategy for Conveyor Belt Method

Step 1: Accumulate Massive Cash Reserves

OG Brainrots typically cost in the hundreds of billions. Based on leaked information suggesting Skibidi Toilet might cost around $300 billion, you’ll need to:

Save up at least $300-500 billion to be safe
Focus on obtaining high-income Secret Brainrots to accelerate cash generation
Avoid unnecessary purchases in the weeks before expected release

Step 2: Optimize Your Server Selection

Not all servers are created equal for rare Brainrot hunting:

Join Luck Bonus Servers: Actively seek servers with luck multipliers (2x-12x) from Admin Abuse events
Private Servers: Consider purchasing a private server (79 Robux) to eliminate competition
Server Hopping Strategy: Systematically hop between servers to find ones with active luck bonuses

Step 3: Monitor Admin Abuse Events

Admin Abuse events dramatically increase spawn rates for rare Brainrots:

Check the Admin Machine every hour for upcoming events
Events with 8x-12x luck multipliers offer the best chances
Taco Tuesday events (weekly on Tuesdays) often feature increased OG spawn rates

For exact timing schedules, refer to our Admin Abuse timing guide.

Step 4: Maintain Constant Vigilance

OG Brainrots don’t announce their spawn—they simply appear on the Red Carpet:

Position yourself near the conveyor belt during high-probability windows
Keep your purchase menu ready to go
Be prepared to click instantly when Skibidi Toilet spawns
Understand that other players with autoclickers may have an advantage

Step 5: Execute the Purchase Lightning Fast

When Skibidi Toilet spawns:

Click the purchase button immediately
Confirm the transaction before other players
The first player to complete the purchase gets the Brainrot
If you miss it, the price escalates 150% for each subsequent purchase

Timing Recommendations for Launch Day

Based on patterns from previous OG releases:

First 24 Hours: Highest spawn rates as developers often boost rates for new releases
Peak Hours (3 PM – 9 PM EST): Most competitive due to player volume
Off-Peak Hours (2 AM – 7 AM EST): Lower competition but normal spawn rates
Week 1: Elevated spawn rates typically last 5-7 days after release

Method 2: Stealing from Other Players

Stealing is a core mechanic in Steal a Brainrot, and Skibidi Toilet will be no exception. However, stealing an OG rarity Brainrot is exponentially more difficult and risky than stealing common units.

Why Stealing Skibidi Toilet Will Be Extremely Difficult

As an OG rarity Brainrot and the newest addition to an ultra-exclusive category, Skibidi Toilet will be:

The #1 Theft Target: Every player will want it, making owners hyper-vigilant
Heavily Defended: Owners will use maximum security measures
Rarely Exposed: Smart players keep OG Brainrots in alternate accounts with 2FA enabled
High-Risk, High-Reward: Getting caught could result in retaliation and loss of your own valuables

Advanced Stealing Strategies

If you’re determined to steal Skibidi Toilet, here are proven tactics:

Intelligence Gathering Phase

Before attempting any theft:

Server hop to identify players who own Skibidi Toilet
Observe their play patterns and base security
Note when they’re AFK or distracted
Identify their defensive gear loadout
Map out their base layout and Brainrot placement locations

Optimal Timing Windows

The best times to attempt a steal:

During Admin Abuse Events: When base gates open and owners are distracted
Server Chaos: When multiple high-value events occur simultaneously
Late Night/Early Morning: When owners may be AFK
Immediately Post-Purchase: Brief window before owners secure their new acquisition

Essential Gear Loadout

For detailed gear strategies, check our stealing mechanics guide.

Recommended equipment for stealing OG Brainrots:

Quantum Cloner (Rebirth 7 required): Allows clipping through defenses
Medusa’s Head: Freezes the owner temporarily
Invisibility Cloak: Approaches without detection
Spring Coils: Rapid movement for quick escapes
All Seeing Sentry (2+): Locates Skibidi Toilet in large bases
Trap: Disables owner’s movement

The 6-Second Rule

When stealing during base gate openings:

Enter the base at 6 seconds remaining (not 0)
Account for 2 seconds to pick up the Brainrot
Allow time for gear switching and positioning
Execute grab and immediately return to your base
Lock base immediately upon return

Post-Steal Security Protocol

If you successfully steal Skibidi Toilet:

Immediate Actions (within 60 seconds):

Transfer Skibidi Toilet to a secure alternate account
Enable two-factor authentication on the alternate account
Never bring Skibidi Toilet into public servers on your main account
Consider server hopping to avoid immediate retaliation

Long-Term Security:

Store in a private server on your alt account
Only display in trusted environments
Use maximum base security measures if keeping on main account
Place on upper floors where theft is more difficult

Method 3: Special Events & Updates (Potential)

While not yet confirmed, historical patterns suggest potential alternative methods:

Lucky Block System: Previous OG Brainrots never appeared in Lucky Blocks, but Skibidi Toilet’s unique status might change this. The developers could introduce:

Special “Skibidi Lucky Blocks” as a limited-time purchase
Event-exclusive blocks during the launch period
Community challenge rewards

Launch Event Bonuses: New OG releases often feature:

Temporary spawn rate increases (first 24-72 hours)
Developer-hosted giveaways on official Discord servers
Content creator partnerships for promotional giveaways

Trading System: Once players begin obtaining Skibidi Toilet, the trading economy will activate:

Early traders may offer Skibidi Toilet for massive Brainrot collections
Trading value will be extraordinarily high initially
Prices will stabilize after 2-3 weeks as more players obtain it

Skibidi Toilet Stats & Economic Impact

While official stats won’t be released until launch, we can make educated predictions based on leaked information, developer comments, and the existing OG Brainrot structure.

Predicted Stats Comparison

Brainrot	Age	Base Cost	Income/Second	Efficiency
Strawberry Elephant	~18 years (2007)	Unknown	$250,000,000/s	Highest OG
Meowl	~12 years (2013)	Unknown	Estimated $150M/s	Mid OG
Skibidi Toilet	~2 years (2023)	~$300B (leaked)	~$330M/s (leaked)	Lowest OG

Note: These figures for Skibidi Toilet are based on community leaks and early developer hints. Actual stats may vary upon official release.

Why Skibidi Toilet Might Outperform Other OGs?

Despite being the “weakest” OG in terms of age-based criteria, leaked stats suggest Skibidi Toilet could actually generate MORE income than the other OG Brainrots. Here’s why this makes sense:

Game Balance Evolution: When Strawberry Elephant and Meowl were added, the game’s economy was less developed. Skibidi Toilet arrives in a mature economy where Secret Brainrots like Dragon Cannelloni already generate $100M/s.

Power Creep: To maintain relevance and excitement, newer additions typically feature slightly inflated stats compared to older content.

Accessibility Trade-off: Higher income generation compensates for lower prestige value, making Skibidi Toilet attractive to players focused on practical income rather than pure collectibility.

Expected Mutation Income

All Brainrots can receive mutations that multiply their income. Assuming the leaked $330M/s base income:

Mutation Type	Multiplier	Income/Second	Income/Hour
Default	1x	$330,000,000	$1.188 trillion
Gold	1.25x	$412,500,000	$1.485 trillion
Diamond	1.5x	$495,000,000	$1.782 trillion
Rainbow	10x	$3,300,000,000	$11.88 trillion
Bloodrot	2x	$660,000,000	$2.376 trillion
Celestial	4x	$1,320,000,000	$4.752 trillion
Candy	4x	$1,320,000,000	$4.752 trillion
Lava	6x	$1,980,000,000	$7.128 trillion
Galaxy	6x	$1,980,000,000	$7.128 trillion
YinYang	7.5x	$2,475,000,000	$8.91 trillion
Radioactive	8.5x	$2,805,000,000	$10.098 trillion

A Rainbow or Radioactive mutation on Skibidi Toilet would instantly make it one of the highest-earning units in the entire game.

Economic Impact on Steal a Brainrot

Skibidi Toilet’s arrival will significantly impact the game’s economy:

Immediate Effects (Week 1):

Massive inflation as players rush to accumulate purchase funds
Spike in Secret Brainrot prices as players sell to raise capital
Increased server activity and player engagement
Trading market volatility

Mid-Term Effects (Weeks 2-4):

Stabilization of Skibidi Toilet’s trade value
Emergence of “Skibidi Toilet meta” base configurations
Shift in theft targeting priorities
Potential for Skibidi-themed events or mutations

Long-Term Impact:

Establishment as permanent elite-tier collectible
Influence on future OG Brainrot releases and pricing
Benchmark for evaluating new additions’ power levels

What to Expect with Skibidi Toilet’s Release?

Based on developer patterns and community speculation, here’s what will likely accompany Skibidi Toilet’s arrival:

1. New Skibidi Mutation

SpyderSammy has hinted at potential Skibidi-themed content beyond just the character itself. Community theories include:

Skibidi Mutation Type: A new mutation category specifically for Skibidi Toilet and potentially other toilet-themed Brainrots. This could feature:

Visual effects matching the YouTube series aesthetic
Indoor area spawn bonuses (bathrooms, water zones)
Unique multiplier values different from existing mutations
Special interactions with water-based events

Precedent: The game previously introduced Radioactive mutations alongside the Radioactive Spin feature, suggesting thematic mutations align with major character releases.

2. Skibidi Toilet Base Theme

Following the pattern of OG Brainrots receiving themed bases:

Confirmed Information: Community datamines and developer hints suggest a Skibidi-themed base is in development.

Expected Features:

Toilet and bathroom-themed aesthetics
Pipe and sewage visual elements
Lighting effects matching the series’ surreal atmosphere
Potentially the most unique base design in the game

Unlock Requirements: Likely obtained through:

Owning Skibidi Toilet in your collection
Completing a Skibidi-themed index or achievement
Special purchase option (Robux or in-game currency)

3. Skibidi Toilet Event

The most exciting speculation involves a full-scale event centered around Skibidi Toilet’s lore:

Community Predictions:

Cameraman vs. Skibidi War Event: Recreating the battle from the YouTube series
Lobby Transformation: The entire map becomes a battlefield with toilets and cameramen
Team-Based Gameplay: Players choose sides and compete
Special Rewards: Exclusive Skibidi-themed items, gear, or Brainrots
Limited-Time Spawn Increases: Higher Skibidi Toilet spawn rates during the event

Timeline: Events typically run for 1-2 weeks during or immediately after a major content drop.

4. Update 30 Integration

Skibidi Toilet is confirmed for Update 30, which is expected to include:

Gingerbread Town Update Content: Christmas/Winter themed features
New Minigames: Potentially ring-based sledding courses
Code Releases: Free codes for event currency or boosts
Balance Changes: Adjustments to existing Brainrots or game mechanics

Advanced Tips for Obtaining Skibidi Toilet

Pre-Release Preparation Checklist

Start preparing NOW to maximize your chances on release day:

Financial Preparation (Weeks Before Release):

☐ Accumulate $300-500 billion in liquid capital
☐ Optimize your Secret Brainrot collection for maximum income
☐ Complete high-value trades to convert assets into cash
☐ Avoid expensive purchases in the 2 weeks before release

Technical Preparation:

☐ Test your internet connection stability
☐ Close unnecessary programs to maximize Roblox performance
☐ Practice rapid clicking and purchase confirmation
☐ Set up hotkeys for quick menu navigation
☐ Consider mouse macro tools (use responsibly and within ToS)

Strategic Preparation:

☐ Join the official Steal a Brainrot Discord for release announcements
☐ Follow SpyderSammy and official channels for exact release timing
☐ Coordinate with trusted friends for trading or cooperative strategies
☐ Prepare alternate accounts with 2FA for security
☐ Study existing OG spawn patterns and timing

Launch Day Strategy

Hour 1-3 (Critical Window):

Be online the moment the update drops
Server hop aggressively to find high-luck servers
Monitor Discord for community spawn reports
Focus 100% on the Red Carpet—ignore distractions
Have backup funds in case of price escalation

Hour 4-24 (Sustained Effort):

Implement rotation strategy (1-hour intense focus, 15-minute break)
Join servers specifically advertising “Skibidi hunt parties”
Watch for Admin Abuse events that boost spawn rates
Consider private server purchase if public competition is overwhelming

Day 2-7 (Extended Campaign):

Track spawn pattern data from community reports
Identify optimal spawn time windows
Adjust strategy based on observed rates
Monitor trading offers as alternative acquisition path

Community Resources

Leverage these resources to stay informed and coordinated:

Official Channels:

Official Steal a Brainrot Discord: https://discord.gg/stealabrainrotserver
Developer Twitter/X announcements
In-game notification system

Community Tools:

Steal a Brainrot Wiki
Steal a Brainrot Fandom Wiki
Trading Discord servers for price tracking
YouTube content creators for strategy guides

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Common Mistakes to Avoid

Mistake #1: Insufficient Capital

The Problem: Many players underestimate the cost and end up $50-100 billion short when Skibidi Toilet spawns.

The Solution: Always prepare 150-200% of the estimated cost. If leaks suggest $300B, save $450-600B to account for price escalation and unexpected costs.

Mistake #2: Wrong Server Type

The Problem: Camping on a standard server with no luck bonuses, missing the 5-10x spawn rate improvement from boosted servers.

The Solution: Aggressively server hop until you find servers with Admin Abuse events active. The time invested in finding the right server pays off exponentially.

Mistake #3: Poor Timing

The Problem: Trying to obtain Skibidi Toilet during peak hours when thousands of players are competing for the same spawn.

The Solution: Target off-peak hours (2 AM – 7 AM EST) or the first 30 minutes after an Admin Abuse event ends, when most players have left but boost effects may linger.

Mistake #4: Inadequate Security

The Problem: Successfully purchasing Skibidi Toilet, only to lose it to theft within 5 minutes due to poor security practices.

The Solution: Have your alt account ready BEFORE purchase. Transfer immediately. Never, ever bring OG Brainrots into public servers on your main account.

Mistake #5: Ignoring the Trading Market

The Problem: Tunnel vision on conveyor belt spawning while missing more efficient trading opportunities.

The Solution: Monitor the trading economy actively. Sometimes the right trade package can secure Skibidi Toilet faster than waiting for RNG spawns.

Mistake #6: Failing to Track Patterns

The Problem: Random, unfocused grinding without understanding spawn mechanics.

The Solution: Document spawn times and conditions. Share data with the community. Recognize patterns in spawn frequency relative to server luck, player count, and time of day.

Frequently Asked Questions

When will Skibidi Toilet be released in Steal a Brainrot?

Skibidi Toilet is confirmed for release in Update 30, expected in late January 2025 or early January 2025. The developer SpyderSammy announced it will arrive “soon” as of December 18, 2025, with the most likely release window being the Gingerbread Town update or immediately after.

How much will Skibidi Toilet cost?

While official pricing hasn’t been confirmed, leaked information and community analysis suggest approximately $300 billion. However, this could change, and the price escalates by 150% for each subsequent purchase after the first player buys it on a server.

Is Skibidi Toilet better than Strawberry Elephant and Meowl?

Skibidi Toilet will be the “weakest” OG Brainrot in terms of prestige and age-based criteria, since it’s only 2 years old compared to Strawberry Elephant (18 years) and Meowl (12 years). However, leaked stats suggest it might generate around $330M/s, which could actually be higher income than the other OG Brainrots depending on their exact values.

Can I get Skibidi Toilet from Lucky Blocks?

Currently, no OG rarity Brainrots appear in Lucky Blocks. However, special “Skibidi Lucky Blocks” could potentially be introduced as a limited-time option. Monitor official announcements for any surprise additions to the Lucky Block system.

What’s the best server type for obtaining Skibidi Toilet?

Private servers with purchased luck boosts (249 Robux for 15 minutes) or public servers during Admin Abuse events with 8x-12x luck multipliers offer the best spawn rates. Private servers eliminate competition but don’t inherently increase spawn rates beyond what you manually boost.

Can Skibidi Toilet receive mutations?

Yes, all Brainrots can receive the standard mutation types including Gold, Diamond, Rainbow, Bloodrot, Celestial, Candy, Lava, Galaxy, YinYang, and Radioactive. Additionally, there’s speculation about a new “Skibidi” mutation type being introduced alongside this character.

How often does Skibidi Toilet spawn on the Red Carpet?

Based on existing OG Brainrot spawn patterns, expect Skibidi Toilet to spawn approximately once every 3-6 hours on standard servers, or once per hour on servers with high luck multipliers (8x+). The first week after release typically features elevated spawn rates.

What happens if someone steals my Skibidi Toilet?

If someone successfully steals your Skibidi Toilet, it’s transferred to their base immediately. You can attempt to steal it back, but this is extremely difficult. The best prevention is never bringing OG Brainrots into public servers and using secure alternate accounts with two-factor authentication.

Will there be a Skibidi Toilet event?

While not officially confirmed, community speculation and developer hints suggest a possible Skibidi-themed event featuring Cameraman vs. Skibidi Toilet battles, special mutations, themed bases, and limited-time increased spawn rates. Monitor official channels for announcements.

Is Skibidi Toilet worth the investment?

If you can afford it, absolutely yes. OG rarity Brainrots represent the pinnacle of prestige in Steal a Brainrot, and Skibidi Toilet will likely generate 300+ million per second in base income (potentially much more with mutations). The combination of extreme rarity, high income, and cultural significance makes it one of the most valuable assets in the game.

Can I trade for Skibidi Toilet instead of buying from the Red Carpet?

Yes, once other players begin obtaining Skibidi Toilet, it will enter the trading economy. However, expect trade demands to be extraordinarily high—likely requiring multiple high-value Secret Brainrots or massive Brainrot collections. Early trading values will be inflated, stabilizing after 2-3 weeks.

Do I need any special items or achievements to purchase Skibidi Toilet?

No special prerequisites are required. As long as you have the required cash (approximately $300 billion based on leaks) and can click fast enough when it spawns, you can purchase Skibidi Toilet. However, maximizing your chances requires strategic preparation including joining luck-boosted servers and timing your attempts.

Conclusion

Obtaining Skibidi Toilet will be one of the most challenging and rewarding accomplishments in Steal a Brainrot. As the third OG rarity Brainrot joining the ultra-exclusive ranks alongside Strawberry Elephant and Meowl, this viral internet icon represents both incredible income potential (potentially $330M/s) and massive prestige within the community.

Your best strategy is to prepare extensively before the release:

Key Takeaways:

Save $300-500 billion in liquid capital before release
Target luck-boosted servers for 5-10x better spawn rates
Time your attempts during Admin Abuse events or off-peak hours
Prepare alternate accounts with 2FA for immediate security transfers
Monitor official channels for exact release timing and surprise mechanics
Stay flexible—be ready to switch between spawning, stealing, and trading strategies

The window of opportunity when Skibidi Toilet first launches will be your best chance. Spawn rates are